Debunking the Putin Panic with Stephen Cohen (VIDEO)
‘There
is a national security crisis, and there is a Russian threat. And we ourselves
here in the United States, have created both of them.’
July
31, 2018
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Stephen F. Cohen is
professor emeritus of Russian studies, history, and politics at New York
University and Princeton University. A Nation contributing editor, his recent
book, Soviet Fates and Lost Alternatives: From Stalinism to the New Cold War,
is available in paperback from Columbia University Press.
Part 1
President Trump’s warm
words for Vladimir Putin and his failure to endorse U.S. intelligence community
claims about alleged Russian meddling have been called “treasonous” and the
cause of a “national security crisis.” There is a crisis, says Prof.
Stephen F. Cohen, but one of our own making…
AARON MATE: It’s The Real News. I’m
Aaron Mate.
The White House is walking
back another statement from President Trump about Russia and U.S. intelligence.
It began in Helsinki on Monday, when at his press conference with Vladimir
Putin, Trump did not endorse the claim that Russia meddled in the 2016 election.
After an outcry that played out mostly on cable news, Trump appeared to retract
that view one day later. But then on Wednesday, Trump was asked if he believes
Russia is now targeting the U.S. ahead of the midterms.
DONALD TRUMP: [Thank] you all very much.
Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you.
REPORTER: Is Russia still targeting
the U.S. [inaudible]. No, you don’t believe that to be the case?
DONALD TRUMP: Thank you very much,
everyone. We’re doing very well. We are doing very well, and we’re doing very
well, probably as well as anybody has ever done with Russia. And there’s been
no president ever as tough as I have been on Russia. All you have to do is look
at the numbers, look at what we’ve done, look at sanctions, look at
ambassadors. Not there. Look, unfortunately, at what happened in Syria
recently. I think President Putin knows that better than anybody. Certainly a
lot better than the media.
AARON MATE: The White House later
claimed that when Trump said ‘no,’ he meant no to answering questions. But
Trump’s contradiction of U.S. intelligence claims has brought the Russiagate
story, one that has engulfed his presidency, to a fever pitch. Prominent U.S.
figures have called Trump’s comments in Helsinki treasonous, and compared
alleged Russian e-mail hacking and social media activity to 9/11 and Pearl
Harbor. Those who also question intelligence claims or warmongering with Russia
have been dubbed traitors, or Kremlin agents.
Speaking to MSNBC, the
former U.S. ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul declared that with Trump’s
comments, the U.S. is in the midst of a national security crisis.
MICHAEL MCFAUL: Republicans need to step
up. They need to speak out, not just the familiar voices, because this is a
national security crisis, and the president of the United States flew all the
way to Finland, met with Vladimir Putin, and basically capitulated. It felt
like appeasement.
AARON MATE: Well, joining me to address
this so-called national security crisis is Stephen Cohen, professor emeritus at
New York University and Princeton University. His books include “Failed
Crusade: America and the Tragedy of Post-Soviet Russia,” and “Soviet Fates and
Lost Alternatives: From Stalinism to the New Cold War.” Professor Cohen,
welcome. I imagine that you might agree with the view that we are in the midst
of a national security crisis when it comes to Russia, but for far different
reasons than those expounded on by Ambassador McFaul.
STEPHEN COHEN: There
is a national security crisis, and there is a Russian threat. And we, we ourselves
here in the United States, have created both of them. This has been true for
years, and now it’s reached crisis proportion. Notice what’s going on. A
mainstream TV reporter shouts to President Trump, “Are the Russians still
targeting our elections?” This is in the category “Are you still beating your
wife?” There is no proof that the Russians have targeted or attacked our
elections. But it’s become axiomatic. What kind of media is that, are the
Russians still, still attacking our elections.
And what Michael McFaul,
whom I’ve known for years, formerly Ambassador McFaul, purportedly a scholar
and sometimes a scholar said, it is simply the kind of thing, to be as kind as
I can, that I heard from the John Birch Society about President Eisenhower when
he went to meet Khrushchev when I was a kid growing up in Kentucky. This is
fringe discourse that never came anywhere near the mainstream before, at least
after Joseph McCarthy, that the president went, committed treason, and betrayed
the country. Trump may have not done the right thing at the summit,
because agreements were reached. Nobody discusses the agreements. But to stage
a kangaroo trial of the president of the United States in the mainstream media,
and have plenty of once-dignified people come on and deliver the indictment, is
without precedent in this country. And it has created a national crisis in
our relations with Russia. So yes, there’s a national crisis.
AARON MATE: Let me play for you a clip
from Trump’s news conference with Putin that also drew outrage back in the U.S.
When he was asked about the state of U.S.-Russia relations, he said both sides
had responsibility.
DONALD TRUMP: Yes, I do. I hold both
countries responsible. I think that the United States has been foolish. I think
we’ve all been foolish. We should have had this dialogue a long time ago. A
long time, frankly, before I got to office. And I think we’re all to blame. I
think that the United States now has stepped forward, along with Russia, and
we’re getting together, and we have a chance to do some great things. Whether
it’s nuclear proliferation, in terms of stopping, because we have to do it.
Ultimately that’s probably the most important thing that we can be working on
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